RE: POLL: Which Post/Comment, of someone else, Deserves an Upvote? Why?
I'll share this link from a creative writing post. I love the way this user built a deep story by linking four different paintings. It has already being upvoted by a curator team.
https://steemit.com/@casv/entre-la-tierra-y-el
I think this post fits: >Well written, entertaining / Very good, fitting to the post /Catching title/Touching.
I upvoted it myself and left a more less concise comment in which I explain what I like and what I thought.
I'll add something else regarding comments and upvotes.
The comments I leave can be short or long (it depends). Sometimes I don't feel inclined to leave a comment, but I usually upvote any post I pay a visit to. Sometimes I also resteem.
If I don't like what I have read/seen, you won't notice since I leave silently, without upvoting or commenting.
I usually won't comment on users I know won't reply (not sure if they read the comments).
And also must admit sometimes I upvote posts not so well written to support the users and finally it's not that I like to tell someone "you could improve orthography, grammar or the use of signs", so I don't do it because anyone could read it and the autor feel bad.
I'm flexible about some mark down, for exemple justifying text or adding caption to all images.
Wow! Muchas gracias por tu referencia y apoyo, es muy amable y sincera.
Feliz y bendecido día para tí..!
I wonder how you figured that out so fast ...
Y usted muy talentoso, amigo. Se merece el apoyo.
Amén. Bendiciones.
If it comes to the post/author I agree.
If it comes to double opvotes if you ask me it is not forbidden, it does happen the only issue is that only one can nominate the post.
With you I also uovote to support, but I tell what could be improved if I do believe this Steemian can make it. If not I leave, say nothing since I learned 90% doesn't care, not even if they complain they are willing to edit or remember/write down some little tricks. I gave up on pulling at dead horses.
Thanks for taking the time to write a great comment and leave an excellent link.
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Thanks to you for giving the chance to set an opinion about someone else's content.
Well, it seems we have learn. Some users get the support anyway, altought don't improve posts, so maybe don't care.
Anyone should wish to improve since our posts show a part of who we are and we all should also care about leaving a good impression of and on Steemit.
No me parecen que las reacciones sean muy entusiastas, pero la verdad es que tampoco lo esperaba, sobre todo al compartir un enlace de otra persona. ¿Quizás se vea como una amenaza? Por mi parte, me pregunto más bien por qué a los demás les gusta algo o, por el contrario, no les gusta. Acabo de hacer de moderador en Steem for Betterlife, porque esa comunidad ya está empezando a llenarse de basura, igual que Dream Steem. Los curadores, que deberían ayudar a dar visibilidad a la gente y animarla a ser más creativa y a escribir algo diferente —lo cual a menudo se consigue con cambios muy pequeños, como un título distinto, mejorar primero la foto u otros hashtags—, parecen recurrir todos a reglas muy antiguas, como un mínimo de palabras y una fecha en el título porque se trata de un diario, un «trius», etcétera, etcétera, y con ello se echa por tierra toda la creatividad. Esto me entristece y no creo que esta prueba vaya a funcionar. Ya me estoy encontrando con un comportamiento muy autoritario, igual que el de muchos moderadores de hace dos años. No creo que los moderadores y curadores que llevan más tiempo sean muy flexibles ni sean capaces de dar vida a la plataforma.
I don’t find the reactions overwhelming yet, but to be honest I didn’t really expect them to be, given that I was just sharing someone else’s link. Perhaps this is seen as a threat? Personally, I’m more interested in why others like something or, conversely, why they don’t. I’ve just been acting as a moderator on Steem for Betterlife, as that community is already starting to get rather cluttered, just like Dream Steem. The curators, who are supposed to help make people more visible and encourage them to be more creative and write something different – which can often be achieved with very minor changes, such as a different title, a better photo or different hashtags – all seem to be reverting to very old rules, such as a minimum word count and a date in the title because it’s a diary or a trius, and so on and so forth. And so, once again, all creativity is being stifled. It saddens me, and I don’t believe this experiment will work. I’m already encountering very authoritarian behaviour, just like that of a large number of moderators from two years ago. I don’t believe that the moderators and curators who have been there for some time are very flexible or capable of bringing the platform to life.
This is key. I think that when we talk about "improvement," it depends on what we consider "improvement." For some, it means following a set of rigid "rules" and parameters, such as word count, text justification, a certain number of images, and even repetitive captions. This is a flawed approach. I think, for example, that content can be excellent with fewer than 300 words, an original image, and a good title. It all comes down to the filter of criteria and flexibility. A post isn't good simply because it has 300 words and is justified. Unfortunately, many moderators, who are also curators, focus on these aspects, which doesn't necessarily make anyone more visible or creative. Currently, with the incentive of comments for improvement through votes, I fear that some recommendations will be made simply for the sake of making them, or that they won't actually impact quality or creativity because the approach is more prescriptive.
Esto es clave. Pienso que cuando se habla de "mejorar" depende de lo que consideremos es eso. Para algunos será seguir una cantidad de "reglas" y parámetros cerrados, como número de palabras, justificación del texto, cierta cantidad de imágenes, captions aunque sean repetitivos. Es un error de criterio.
Yo pienso por ejemplo que un contenido puede ser excelente con menos de 300 palabras, una imagen propia y un buen título. Todo pasa por el filtro de criterios y flexibilidad.
Un post no es bueno solo por tener 300 palabras y estar justificado, lamentablemente muchos moderadores que también suelen ser curadores se centran en esos aspectos, lo cual no necesariamente va a hacer más visible y creativo a nadie.
En estos momentos que están motivando con votos el hacer comentarios para mejorar, me temo que habrá recomendaciones que se haga por hacerlas o que realmente no tengan un impacto en la calidad o la creatividad porque el enfoque es más bien normativo.
I don’t really believe in change anymore. The problem is that the curators – or those whose job it is to guide others – need to be helpful, offering tips and advice that actually work, and this used to apply to those welcoming newcomers as well. When they aren’t on the same page, don’t share the same opinion and – as @thegorilla pointed out at the time – literally need to have every single step spoon-fed to them, and even when everything is spelled out on paper, it still isn’t read or is misunderstood, then there’s nothing to be done. This probably also means that only people who can read with understanding – and perhaps don’t need to translate anything – can take on this task, as well as those who haven’t made a name for themselves by carrying out all sorts of tasks for the Steemit Team.
What bothers me most of all is that community rules are being ignored by the improvers, who simply penalise people for taking part in creative competitions and following the rules.
It’s sad, but without creative curators who are open-minded and flexible – and not too business-minded to realise that the old method doesn’t work – this platform won’t last long, at least not with a Steem that still has any value.
Perhaps that’s the only upside. The greedy ones will disappear, and the rest will stay until the last server pulls the plug.
Ya no creo tanto en un cambio. El problema es que los curadores, o quienes deben guiar a los demás, deben ser serviciales, dar consejos y recomendaciones que realmente funcionen, y esto también se aplicaba antes a quienes daban la bienvenida a los recién llegados. Cuando estos no están en sintonía, no comparten la misma opinión y, como ya señaló @thegorilla en su momento, necesitan que se les explique literalmente cada paso, e incluso si todo está detallado por escrito, si esto no se lee o se malinterpreta, entonces no hay nada que hacer. Esto probablemente también significa que solo las personas que pueden leer con comprensión y tal vez tampoco necesiten traducir nada pueden asumir esta tarea, además de aquellas que no han llegado a donde están por realizar todo tipo de tareas para el equipo de Steemit.
Lo que más me molesta es que los improvers ignoran las reglas de las comunidades y simplemente sancionan a las personas cuando participan en concursos creativos y siguen las reglas.
Es triste, pero sin curadores creativos que sean abiertos y flexibles, y que no sean lo suficientemente pragmáticos como para comprender que el método antiguo no funciona, esta plataforma no tendrá una vida larga, al menos no con un Steem que aún tenga algún valor.
Quizás esa sea la única ventaja. Los codiciosos desaparecerán y el resto se quedará hasta que el último servidor se apague.
This booming vote is yours and well deserved.
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Thank you!